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Trump Admits To Groping Melania In Public In Shocking Howard Stern Interview

by Seth Millstein
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In newly-surfaced audio recordings, Donald Trump acknowledged groping Melania Trump in public, and said that he thinks his daughter Ivanka "looks down on me." The audio is from an incredible 15 hours of conversations Trump had with radio host Howard Stern prior to announcing his presidential campaign, archives that the shock jock refused to release before last year's presidential election. Factbase acquired the interviews in their entirety earlier in the month and published them on Monday, complete with a searchable database.

"Have you ever felt [Melania] up in public?," Stern asked Trump in a 2004 interview.

"Yeah," a chuckling Trump replied.

In another interview, Trump said that "I think my daughter looks down on me." He acknowledged other conversations that his own germophobia "could be a psychological problem," and said that he's "never been that involved" with raising his children.

Some transcripts and recordings of Trump's interviews with Stern were published during the presidential campaign, but those only amounted to roughly 20 minutes of conversation, according to Factbase — just a small fraction of the total time Stern has spent interviewing Trump on his show over the years.

However, Factbase says that it received an anonymous email on September 5th that contained a link to hours of additional audio from Stern's Trump interviews. In total, the website was able to verify 15 hours of spoken audio by Trump himself on Stern's show, which it subsequently transcribed and posted in a searchable database.

Trump was a frequent guest on Stern's show; in fact, according to Newsweek, he's talked more to Stern than any other journalist. However, the New York-based radio host refused to release transcripts or audio of their many conversations during the 2016 presidential campaign.

"Why don't I play all the tapes?," Stern said on Sirius XM during the campaign. "I have to tell you why. I feel Donald Trump did the show in an effort to be entertaining and have fun with us, and I feel like it would be a betrayal to any of our guests if I sat there and played them now where people are attacking him."

Nevertheless, that audio has now been re-released, and it includes some quotes from Trump that are newly relevant in light of him becoming president. In one conversation from October 2001, Trump suggested that commercial airliners be equipped with sleeping gas in order to protect against another September 11th-style attack.

"You have a red button in the plane and the pilot has a huge problem in the back, he's got two or three terrorists shooting — you know, going crazy," Trump explained. "He presses a button and sleeping gas comes out. The entire back of the plane goes to sleep." Trump added that after the plane landed, authorities could "knock the crap out of [the terrorists and] hang 'em by the back of the plane."

Trump often discussed women, either specifically or in general, while on Stern's show. During a 2004 conversation about The Apprentice, he referred to a "supermodel cutie" on the show with a "200 IQ," and cautioned that it might be a bad thing for a woman to be that intelligent.

"A beautiful woman that's that smart, that could be a negative, Howard," Trump said. "I don't know." In other clips, Trump called Paris Hilton "dumb like a fox" and criticized Beyonce for dancing "in a very suggestive manner" during the 2013 Superbowl Halftime show.

His family came up often as well. In addition to many comments about Melania, Trump spoke highly of his own performance as a father, although he noted that he's "never been that involved" and would never play catch with his kids if they asked him.

"I've been a good father, a really good father, but I've never been that involved," Trump said. "Like, if they ever said, 'come on outside, dad, let's have a catch in Central park...I'd say, 'excuse me, what?'"

Finally, Trump noted in one interview that "every time I've done Howard Show, I've gotten in trouble with Melania."