This Professor Helped His Student Ask Someone Out Using Aristotelian Rhetoric & The Internet Is Here For It
When it comes to the best dating advice, we normally think of magazines, websites, or maybe even asking a friend. But Jake, a 22 year-old student at Salt Lake Community college, decided to think outside of the box and asked his professor, Shannon Atkinson, for advice on how to ask a woman out. Using Aristotle's modes of persuasion, together they crafted the perfect message for asking someone out on a date.
Some background for those of us who are less-than-familiar with Religious Studies or Aristotelian rhetoric. Ethos, pathos, and logos make up Aristotle's modes of persuasion. (There's also kairos, but that's not as common so we don't need to get tangled up in that here.) Each of the three appeal to different areas in order to convince or persuade your audience. Ethos is the ethical appeal, meant to convince the audience of your character, pathos is the emotional appeal, directed at the emotions of the listener. And finally, logos is the the appeal to logic or reason. And how do the three combine to make a convincing argument? Well, take a look:
yooo i have about 0 skills when it comes to texting girls so i legit asked my english professor to help me draft a text to a girl and we strAIGHT ETHOS, LOGOS, PATHOSED MY WAY INTO A DATE 😭😂🤑 pic.twitter.com/oHwIDGEheA— jake (@squidslippers) October 25, 2017
And it worked! And even though the main point is that it was successful, I think we all take a moment to acknowledge the fact that he Instagrammed stalked her hard and has to pretend he doesn't know certain information about her. He is all of us.
"My only real input into this whole thing was having him really appeal to the pathos part of the triangle and be sensitive and cognizant of the ‘details’ of her life situation, as often in rhetoric of this type that is what is going to put him over the top, so to speak," Atkinson told BuzzfeedNews. "This is where Jacob brought up how she was moving, he wanted to create a stress reliever, and then the kicker, her dog.... I thought including all three would appeal well to her pathos. The logos and ethos sides were pretty straightforward and he had these pretty much settled."
Oh, and just so you know, the date went great:
JUST GOT BACK FROM MY DATE LOOK HOW CUTE HANNAH IS I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE SHE SAID YES 😭😊— jake (@squidslippers) October 28, 2017
WE FINGER PAINTED THE SUNSET TOGETHER IT WAS SO AMAZING AND THE PAINTING WAS GOOD BUT THE REAL MASTERPIECE WAS NEXT TO ME THE WHOLE TIME 😍💖
ALSO WINSTON IS CHILL AF pic.twitter.com/3sr39jQCpo
Because it worked so smoothly, the internet can't handle it. People are loving this dating advice and wanting to apply it themselves. Here's what the internet had to say:
1The Emotional Investment
This was basically the entire internet. Nobody can get enough of how damn cute the whole thing is.
There were so many people wanting to learn from his ways. Although I have to say, the ways don't seem that revolutionary. They've been around for thousands of years, after all.
3This Woman Who Just Wants To Be A Part Of It
Okay this is great but my name is Hannah and my dogs name is Winston 😂— Hannah Marie ☁️ (@_hannaahh___) October 26, 2017
4This Formatting Pedant
This needs at least three sources formatted in MLA and needs to be in twelve point font, times new Roman or it didn't happen.— Ivan Jimenez (@dilfstache) October 26, 2017
This is a horrific flashback to high school — and trying to fake a indentations and line spacings to reach that page count.
5The Commander Of Taking Notes
Ethos, logos and pathos you say? pic.twitter.com/TIR4d0iSUj— Brujeria 💀😈 (@JoshuaObanor) October 26, 2017
EVEN OBAMA WANTS TO KNOW. Well, if you believe that GIFs are real life.
6The Humility Of It
Asking the English prof for help shows this guy has skills many lack: self-assessment and selection of appropriate advisors.— Qov (@CanadaAviatrix) October 27, 2017
Burn. Although, maybe there's something to it — never be afraid to ask for help.
If Shia is clapping for you, you know you've done something right.
8The Conspiracy Theories
me typing an email to my english teacher so she can help me construct a message as smooth as yours pic.twitter.com/1AZDGGBAKP— syd (@sydelisabxth) October 26, 2017
I'm not sure that every professor would be able to give such good advice, but it's worth a shot.
10A Wannabe Copycat
That is the tweet of a person who has not had much success.
11This Twitter Fail
A victim of its own success! Life, and the internet, come at you fast. The secret is out.
I don't know if classic philosophers are always the best choice for dating advice, but you might as well give it a shot. What this shows it that you can look for guidance in unexpected places — and that the internet will always freak the eff out.